Simon Woodroffe: 'I believe AI goes to convey huge wealth into the world'

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Simon Woodroffe podcast transcript

Good day everybody, and welcome to Small Enterprise Snippets, the podcast from SmallBusiness.co.uk. I’m your host, Anna Jordan. At present now we have Simon Woodroffe. You could recognise him as one of many authentic panellists on Dragons’ Den, in addition to the founding father of YO! Sushi.

Simon: Hello Anna. Very good to be right here.

Anna: Pretty to have you ever. How are you doing?

Simon: I’m good. I simply flew in from Girona, within the north of Spain, the place we’re simply opening this new lodge. Not YOTEL, truly, however one known as Off Grid Girona, which is what it says on the can. I hope all of your viewers/listeners are going to return and go to us.

I’m positive they are going to. Okay, so I’m simply going to dive straight in right here as we speak. You left Dragons’ Den after collection one since you mentioned that you simply didn’t like the best way that the entrepreneurs had been being handled.

You’ve additionally mentioned that ego is damaging in enterprise. I’d adore it, to kick us off, when you might broaden on these two issues.

Simon: I left Dragons’ Den and ego in enterprise. Look. Dragons’ Den was truly a TV present in Japan and was a really sort of low story. And the BBC purchased it and reformatted it. And I keep in mind turning as much as the primary present and none of us actually knew what was going to occur, and it was filmed cinema verité, ‘as if life’.

So, there was no modifying performed in the course of the present. We didn’t cease alongside the best way. It was actually cinema verité. And sure, I suppose it’s true that there’s just one phrase for ‘enterprise’ on this planet, nevertheless it means a lot of various things. And the world that I stay in is small companies and start-up companies and all of that.

I’m actually anyone who applauds anyone who goes out and does something, , who stands up and places their head above the parapet and goes and does something. And that’s why I believe folks used to say, ‘Oh, he was the great Dragon’. It was in regards to the time that, all of the music TV exhibits had been occurring after which Simon Cowell was dissing everyone. I believe they [the BBC] wished it to be a bit like that for Dragons to be, actually, Dragons. And it’s not me. I used to be the great one. Did I inform them that they need to do it otherwise? Realizing me at the moment, I wouldn’t have performed now, however I believe I in all probability did.

I mentioned that they need to get higher buyers. I imply, look, I’ll inform you one thing. If you wish to get actually good investments on this world, don’t go and ask the BBC. The factor folks at all times ask me is, on Dragons’ Den, give me some recommendation. ‘I’m occurring Dragons’ Den, what ought to I do’?

The factor to recollect is when you’re going to boost cash, is that Dragons’ Den is showbusiness, it’s not enterprise. There are 5 folks sitting there and so they’re all pondering of themselves: ‘I ponder what my efficiency goes to be like’, moderately than ‘Am I going to get an ideal funding right here?’ So sure, I in all probability did say that and don’t suppose I might do it now.

It’s their present. It’s not my present. I used to be a visitor. I used to be a contributor. And truly, love them or hate them, the Dragons’ Den and Huge Brother and The Apprentice and all of them. What they’ve performed, I believe, for our tradition, is to indicate folks that this stuff are doable. Enterprise isn’t that sophisticated.

I’m positive there are an terrible lot of individuals sitting at residence going, ‘I might do higher than that.’

Ego in enterprise. I’m unsure. It’s a humorous factor, ego, as a result of it’s like self-confidence. I’m right here, sitting right here with you, and I seem assured. Nicely, I hope I seem assured, And I really feel assured as a result of I do know my topics.

However it wasn’t at all times like that. Once I began out, I keep in mind I had fairly low vanity. I didn’t, however I put the grunt work in and I received to this stage and it’s way more snug. So, do you want ego in enterprise? I believe that within the very early days of a brand new start-up enterprise, megalomaniac management, obsessive, not life-work stability – simply doing all the pieces your self – is a extremely good approach to get issues began.

However when you’ve received it up and operating, that’s when you need to again off and let different folks do issues their method, not your method. That’s the speculation, in accordance with me.

How are you aware whenever you’ve reached that time the place you’re able to let go of the reins a little bit bit?

Simon: I believe if you end up able to eliminate your TV set, eliminate Instagram, flip off social media or no matter your model of that’s, and are keen to work the 16 hours, seven days per week that an entrepreneur works. Not since you need a pile of cash, however since you’ve received to a stage the place you’ve received obsessive about doing one thing.

I at all times say take a pocket book or a cellphone, or no matter it’s, and begin writing down issues as they happen to you and begin creating it. And by no means, ever suppose, ‘Shall I? Shan’t I? Shall I? Shan’t I? Shall I? Shan’t I?’ That’s standing on the beginning line. As a substitute put within the work of researching, and famously I’ve at all times mentioned to provide your self three months when you can presumably discover the cash to do this, to really go and analysis one thing if it’s coming to the fore in your pocket book. On the finish of three months, almost 100 days, you probably have 1% enchancment a day on the finish of three months, that’s 100% enchancment, and then you definitely’re able to determine whether or not to do it. Even when you spend a bit of cash; you spend a little bit of time. You’ll be able to say no at that stage, however you’ve received to get to the purpose the place you truly begin to imagine in one thing.

And as soon as you’re obsessed, I believe it’s what occurred with me, then you possibly can undergo the ache it takes to do it. In spite of everything, why would you wish to go and be an entrepreneur, which entails sleepless nights and plenty of fear and never a lot time in your pals and your loved ones that, properly, when you when you’ve received a really good social life and also you’ve received a pleasant job, why would you wish to try this?

You’d be loopy to do it. However I believe us entrepreneurs, or individuals who go and do tough issues, all kinds of various kinds of individuals, however there’s at all times a bit like with the grit within the oyster, the bit chippy or indignant or tough. In the event you’re one of many tough ones, it’s a very good place to be.

That’s so fascinating to me, as a result of I’ve learn beforehand that you simply don’t agree with market analysis when beginning up a enterprise. Maybe the analysis that you simply do in that three-month interval is nearly like a type of market analysis, or an alternate. What would you say to that?

Simon: It’s a very good line, isn’t it? Throw away the advertising and marketing price range and spend all of your cash on doing one thing nice. So, that phrase of mouth, or phrase of Instagram or no matter it’s goes out and everyone takes it. And I believe there’s some extent to that. However yeah, I might just about argue the other of something that I say.

We stay in a world the place everyone appears to have these very exact opinions. I’m on this aspect or that. I can argue the other of most issues. I might actually argue that you must do tons and plenty of market analysis. So, perhaps my 100 days is market analysis. However I believe folks typically do an excessive amount of, rely an excessive amount of on what the stats inform them.

And when you’ve received a intestine intuition – I had with sushi. I’d lived in California. I knew that fairly often fads that occur in America translate into the UK about 5 years later. I like sushi, I do know tons of people that did, and that was sufficient for me. If I’d gone out and requested you, ‘Would you wish to eat uncooked fish off conveyor belts with robots serving the drinks, and even sleep in a seven sq. metre room in our inns with no pure mild as a result of the window’s dealing with the corridors?’ that market analysis wouldn’t have mentioned sure. However after all, after I did it, I heard what I name the ‘magic phrases’, that are, ‘If that is so nice, why didn’t anyone do that earlier than?’

Yeah, I agree. I imply, I believe there’s a tendency in enterprise to play it a bit secure, like I’m a vegetarian. And when you exit for a sandwich, you’re principally restricted to egg and cress or falafel and hummus.

I suppose it’s about taking these dangers however measuring these dangers and the way you differentiate between the 2, what’s a calculated danger and what’s only a bit daft.

Simon: I by no means actually thought I used to be a danger taker, and clearly, I used to be. I put all the pieces I had, which wasn’t an ideal deal, in 1997. I put all the pieces that I had on the road, and I suppose for 90 per cent of the time I actually believed it, and for five per cent I wobbled and for five per cent was sheer terror.

Clearly, I used to be a danger taker, however I used to be fairly smart. I’ve at all times been fairly smart. This was no type of, ‘Let’s simply give it a go. To hell with it. Let’s simply do it’. I crossed each ‘T’, dotted each ‘I’, and finally received to the stage the place I believed, properly, look, even when I lose all the pieces, I a lot wish to see this factor that’s in my thoughts come to fruition that I’m going to do it anyway.

I see a whole lot of the youthful folks now who’re beginning web firms or no matter they’re, and so they’re a gaggle of people that have a collective unconscious, when you like, the place all of them wish to see this occur and so they’re keen to place all the pieces on the road. The youthful you do it, the extra restoration time you’ve received and the extra dangers you possibly can take.

I by no means met the one that went out to do what they actually dreamed of doing after they had that obsession and regretted it, no matter whether or not they succeeded or failed. Due to course, when you do fail, you’ve discovered an terrible lot, and the following time you’re going to be higher at it.

It’s a very good schooling. However I met lots of people who later in life seemed again and mentioned, ‘, I want I’d taken extra dangers after I was youthful and put my head above the parapet and tried issues out. It could have been a extra fascinating life.’

Anna: That’s apparently one of many high regrets of the dying, from what I perceive.

Simon: I didn’t know that that’s, that’s the factor researched. Yeah, it’s the well-known, ‘I want I had spent extra time within the workplace.’ That’s the factor, isn’t it?

If we’re trying in sensible phrases, that 100 days you’ve received there, you’re bettering by 1% every day. Give us some sensible examples of what that may appear like.

Simon: Forged my thoughts again to the start of Venture YO! Sushi. All of the meals was out within the open, so we needed to take care of well being and security folks. We needed to take care of hearth folks as a result of we had been cooking within the open, as a result of all of the kitchens had been on the market. Folks mentioned that you simply put meals on the conveyor belts and individuals are going to pay by the variety of plates you’ve on the finish of the meal.

Individuals are going to steal the plates, all of these issues. In fact, too, after I first began, it was pre-internet. You couldn’t actually analysis. And I’ve some very costly cellphone calls to Japan, and certainly to the Japanese embassy, which was actually fairly so flabbergasted, a bit like asking the English embassy the place you can begin a fish and chip store right here to occur.

I went to Japan and I did the analysis ultimately, however that these issues had been all taking dangers and, you might say 1% a day, nevertheless it’s actually it’s little by little, attending to know extra. Dotting the ‘I’s, crossing the ‘T’s, you get to know extra.

You’re speaking to folks. And I say whenever you’re speaking to folks, be quiet sufficient to essentially hearken to what individuals are saying and don’t say, ‘No, no, no, no, they’re there. You’re incorrect, you’re incorrect.’ You wish to hear all the pieces folks have gotten to say. And then you definitely filter it because it is available in.

Some goes within the garbage bin, some is helpful, some is put apart that may very well be used afterward. It’s simply attending to know your topics and what it’s and all of the issues that would occur. And I believe one other factor is that whenever you do see a glitch moderately than glossing over it

to place your hand deep into your pockets and pull out the issue and truly have a look at it in a much bigger method. And I believe that what you’re additionally making an attempt to do, is making an attempt to visualise what it will likely be like, for instance, what it will likely be like on the primary day that you simply launch your product, no matter that’s. As a result of when you can’t visualise it, it’s in all probability not going to occur.

And also you’ve received to visualise why folks wish to come and get what you’re providing. And to make that as enticing as you possibly can. And the longer you go on, funnily sufficient, in Spain, the place we’re opening this new lodge Off Grid Girona. He was saying the opposite day, it’s superb, each time I begin doing one thing or placing one of many elements of the expertise in place and doing the rooms up and doing the increase, he mentioned, ‘Each time I pause and suppose, I’m not fairly positive about that and wait and wait and wait, there’s at all times an answer comes up.’ And one among my issues is there’s a resolution to all the pieces on this world.

You’ve simply received to seek out it. No matter tough predicament you might be in at any level, nonetheless caught you’re in your life. Nonetheless uncertain you’re of the place to go subsequent. Most issues, when you do nothing, go away. In the event you maintain on the lookout for options, most issues go away. You don’t need to do something about them.

An instance of that’s, , when you look again over the stuff you fearful about final week or final month or final yr, you possibly can’t even keep in mind what they had been.

Anna: Sure.

Simon: There are different issues that require huge and speedy motion, and it’s realizing which of them you need to take motion on and which of them you possibly can let fade away.

You’ve talked about studying loads from Japanese tradition, and moderately than the type of ‘go, go, go’, make each choice in a short time. There’s a tradition in enterprise in Japan the place they’ve, you mentioned, seven conferences. They get to speak to one another, they get to learn the way different folks work, what their traits are, strengths and weaknesses and so forth.

Particularly in as we speak’s enterprise world, it’s fairly a distinction.

Simon: Sure. In Japan, what you’re speaking about, they name it nemawashi. It’s the artwork of forming rapport with the particular person you’re speaking to. In fact, in America, you go to a gathering, they go, ‘Okay, Simon, so what’s the deal?’ The English are terribly over well mannered, however, I like the concept of truly simply constructing extra rapport.

Enterprise is comparatively easy. Getting your self, for the people who find themselves pondering of beginning one thing or the early stage, getting your self prepared, getting your self in a very good place so that you’re snug with your self, you’re snug what you’re doing, and in addition your interpersonal relationships with folks. Enterprise is simple.

It’s folks that’s exhausting and the toughest particular person

Anna: Is your self.

Simon: Is your self. So, I believe the preparation for enterprise isn’t a lot on a spreadsheet and even on a marketing strategy, however it’s getting your self prepared. And other people say, ‘How do I get began?’ So usually I’ve heard folks say, ‘We’re nonetheless writing the marketing strategy’. And I do know you assist folks do enterprise plans, and it’s vital to do this, however they’re simply creativeness, they’re nothing to do with actuality.

There have been a few factors I actually beloved there. It made me consider how within the den whenever you gave folks suggestions that you simply wouldn’t give now, and maybe that was perhaps your ego. And earlier than you knew your self higher, that perhaps you had been giving recommendation that you simply wouldn’t give now. But in addition, this piece in regards to the altering world of enterprise, and also you’ve thrived by way of forming relationships and getting in contact with folks.

And I believe in any enterprise that’s completely strong and completely key. However perhaps the factor that’s modified is the folks that you simply’re trying to communicate to, perhaps having much less time, much less power, much less capability, to, I suppose, assist you in the best way that you simply’re on the lookout for. What would you say to that?

Simon: I keep in mind saying to myself when folks didn’t reply my cellphone calls, after I was making an attempt to get in contact with folks. I believed if I ever get into that state of affairs, which I’m in now, I might at all times return folks’s calls. And up to now, with a little bit of assist from my pals, and folks I work with, I do reply to everyone who writes to me and that’s an absolute pleasure to have the ability to try this, insofar as I will be of any assist. I believe everyone’s received to seek out their very own method. And we hear loads that method about youngsters having an excessive amount of social media. And everyone’s get tied up in simply sending emails. One of many issues that I’ve discovered on this world is to do otherwise to what everyone else is doing, the best way to stand out within the crowd, do it otherwise.

There’s no one who doesn’t like being flattered, listened to, instructed that they’re fascinating. And I believe one of many issues I’ve discovered is I believed that you simply needed to simply speak loads when you had been the chief of one thing. And as I’ve received older, I discover that the extra you pay attention, the quieter you’re and the much less you say, the extra folks pay attention to each phrase.

So, no matter your glitches – and also you already know what the glitches are – I counsel, take into consideration practising behaving otherwise to how you’d usually behave and simply see what reactions you get when that occurs.

This feeds into one among my different questions. So, whenever you had been a roadie for varied rock acts, so that you left faculty with a few O-levels. One of many greatest modifications we’ve seen within the enterprise world and within the wider world is huge competitors, competing not solely with folks regionally however globally, having to have {qualifications} for jobs that historically didn’t have {qualifications}.

If anyone finds themselves in the identical place now that you simply had been then, what recommendation would you give them about creating a profession and beginning a enterprise?

Simon: Nicely, when you’re going to be an airline pilot or a mind surgeon, please, please go to college to get educated correctly. However when you’re not, enterprise is comparatively easy. I’m an enormous fan of a man known as Felix Dennis, who wrote a ebook known as The way to Be Wealthy. And he additionally wrote a poem, which I’ll do for you simply rapidly.

I believe it actually says all of it. It says how easy enterprise is. You’re the tough bit. So, this goes:

Concepts we’ve had ‘em
Since Eve first met Adam
However take it from me
Execution’s the important thing
Success
The reality is
The extra that you simply sweat
The tougher you’re employed
The luckier you get

The cash
Go discover a doubtless investor to get what you want
You toady to greed
The expertise
Go discover it
However first wine and dine it
It’s tedious work
With a gifted jerk
To win it
You’ve received to be in it
However by no means be late to give up and reduce bait
Growth is self-importance
Revenue is sanity
Overhead begs and it walks on two legs

Step one simply do it and bluff your method by way of it
Bear in mind to duck
Godspeed and good luck

And when you’ve received an concept. Don’t go to college. Don’t go and get coaching. I imply, not least since you’re in all probability going to be forward after three years; you’re going to be forward of your compatriots when it comes to road life and truly being out doing issues.

You’re going to be £50,000 higher off and, you’re going to be in it. Get on the market, do no matter you’ll want to do – over-deliver. Take into consideration what you are able to do for them, not what folks can do for you. That took me a very long time to know, that thought course of. What can I do for others moderately than what can they do for me?

Go on the market and try this, you are able to do that when you’re going to work for anyone. However you need to save up a little bit bit of cash. And that requires not having a lot pleasure. When issues are tough, whenever you’re out of your consolation zone, truly, it’s not a foul place to be.

We’re educated that, once we’re feeling uncomfortable, that we rapidly get again to a spot the place we really feel snug once more. However stand outdoors it, be uncomfortable for a interval. An affordable time frame is what profitable folks do. The pebble dropped into the water. The ripples exit and also you get extra snug in a tough world or with tough issues.

One thing that does make folks really feel a bit uncomfortable, relying on the place you stand on it, is AI and its emergence. I’ve learn in one other interview that you simply like sticking to enterprise the place you’re working with bodily creations. How has that been influenced by AI (if in any respect)? What position does AI play in driving innovation?

Simon: Nicely, I imply, I’m enthusiastic about this new world that we’re going to stay in and what’s going to occur with AI and all the remaining. I simply occur to have performed the other when everyone was going on the web. I went and did bodily issues. I might need a concept to do the other to everyone else, that there’s much less competitors.

However I believe that AI and all the remainder of it, what it’s going to do for a kick-off is it’s going to convey huge wealth into the world, however on the similar time, it’s going to place not simply the people who find themselves struggling on the backside of the society, however huge swathes of individuals within the center, out of a job.

How we as a society reshape ourselves in order that the wealth that that brings into the world, that AI brings into the world, may very well be extra pretty distributed throughout the entire world to have. I believe in 100 years’ time, folks will look again and say that they’d that disparity of wealth between the very wealthy and the very poor.

I can see some sort of type of common wage coming in so that individuals can nonetheless have imaginative and prescient and keenness and do issues on this world. I believe you might say that I’m a dreamer, however I’m not the one one. And I believe that the world in 100 years will probably be a fully superb place, as a result of we’ll be fixing all the issues that we see.

Have a look at the wars which can be occurring in the mean time and the shoots of potential options. However the realisation amongst so many individuals, that it’s simply so old style, having wars. I’ll inform you what I’m ready for. I’m ready for the glasses, that are the precursor to having implants.

Anna: The Google Glass kind factor?

Nicely, I might sit and discuss this all day. However sadly, we do need to wrap up there. However earlier than we go, there was a theme that runs all through your social media content material and the E-book of YO!, and operating all through this podcast episode, too.

What ideas do you’ve for small companies listening or watching about, dare I say, self-mastery or actually attending to know your self?

Simon: Go surfing and browse the E-book of YO! Learn my new autobiography when it comes out subsequent yr, YO! Man. Go and study and hearken to different folks, filter what is available in, take what you want and go away the remaining. And study to be a greater particular person. And when you try this, folks love to do enterprise with folks they like and belief.

You’ll be able to solely be trustable when you belief your self. So, have a look at your self first earlier than you have a look at different folks.

Anna: Nicely, that’s an excellent observe to finish on. Thanks a lot for approaching, Simon. Thanks and thanks for watching. We’ll see you subsequent time.

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